October 2, 2006ne one put a turbo on a automatic 2001? Does that even work right? lol. or even sound right.
Forums : Performance General : About the turbo again (919 Views)
October 3, 2006Abe,
Yes, a few owners have gone with a Turbo or Superchanrger for their N/A older cruisers. You have to remember that the internals of the Non-turbo cars aren't built the same way and pushing it will only shorten the life of the engine, but it can be done. Here's a good site for information from Bob Stockum who specializes in that sort of work.
October 3, 2006I have heard superchargers for the PT are better than turbo's as far as pressure on the stock engine..I am not expert but that's what I have read....But for the price of the supercharges it might be smarter to upgrade to a newer GT..
Jackson racing even has installation instructions to give you an idea ..
October 3, 2006But another big question for this is, are these turn into turbo cars an automatic. Thanks everyone for the information by the way. Im just trying to figure things out before I do nething of this sort.
October 4, 2006As long as you keep boost low, the stock engine can take mild boost from either super or turbo charger.
The automatic is the same in a 2001 as it is in a GT (except for the autostick).
October 30, 2006CREWZIN, Supercharging or turbocharging a n/a engine won't shorten it's life unless it's not properly installed or tuned & certain limits are exceeded. Current conventional wisdom says you can't push beyond 9psi or 100hp but no-one, to my knowledge, has yet blown a properly installed/tuned Hahn turbo or whipple/Jackson superchared PT. I have 85k miles with a Hahn kit installed at 20k & upgraded to stage 2 (9psi) at 40k and no other engine mods. Absolutely no problems & purrs like a new motor.
October 30, 2006Taikuchin,
I'm glad your happy with your upgrade and I totally agree with everything you said, but what I was trying to post to my perpulpt was that "pushing" the N/A engine will shorten it's life. Lets face it, a lot of the people that want to go faster in their cruiser and want to add either the turbo or supercharger want as much power as they can squeeze out of it and will push it to the limits.
If you visit the other forums, the turbo guys are always talking about which import the last beat and what times their getting at the track. This gives newer owners the idea that they can just add a kit and go for it. I was trying to point out that the stock turbo engines can take a lot more "pushing" than the N/A engine.
October 30, 2006CREWZIN,
That's true & if I were gonna be going to the strip I'd sure as hell upgrade the internals... but it's my impression that most of the folks that inquire about adding boost to the n/a engine are only concerned with getting a little more action on the street. Having some passing power on the 2 lanes etc. The superchargers will do that & the Hahn kit will do even more in that it will outperform a stock GT. Mine was dyno tuned at Hahn & put out (engine) 230hp & 270# and that was with a very restrictive "custom" exhaust (since replaced). I just like to correct the mistaken idea that you can't get respectable power from the n/a enginge without rebuilding the engine. You won't keep up with the Stage 1 plus boys (& girls.. sorry Bosch) but you'll surprise a lot of folks who consider these little jewells to be 'ptlosers'.
October 30, 2006True enough. I've never found the N/A PT to be lacking in power in 99% of driving. I travel a 800 mile oneway trip to my son's house about 4 times a year, on and off the major Route 95 corrodore on the east coast. Getting up to speed on the on-ramps is no problem. My average speed is somewhere around 75 which is faster than most of the traffic and have no trouble going faster if need be.
Don't take that as me being an old fuddy duddy poking around and holding up traffic. I'm usually the one doing the passing and have been known to almost triple the limit on lonely stretches of highway (in a different car). I just find the PT a great traveling car which will do what's asked of it...when things aren't broken.
October 30, 2006And I was saying the '01 auto is the same as the GT auto internally, so your odds of breaking it are the same.
The GT has stronger connecting rods, but I held a GT rod in my hand that THier broke - with who knows how much boost.
If you don't go crazy, the PT is quite tough - go too high with boost, and things'll break.